Hi everyone,
I’ll start by saying that this is more of a message than a story. It doesn’t fit the prompt but there are a few things I would like to say.
Number one, I know downvoting has been a big problem on Reedsy lately but only recently after reading Upvoter’s story “Goodbye” did I realize that upvoting can have the same consequences. I have been a person that upvotes others frequently, and I’m sorry for the negative effect it could have had on others. My intention was to help the author’s I gave the points to, not put down others. While I feel that everyone I gave the points to genuinely deserved them, no one person should be able to influence the leaderboard that much.
I appreciate all the people on here that have gotten me higher on the leaderboard, but there are other people that deserve the spot much more than I do. I’m sorry to anyone that I may have bumped off the leaderboard or unfairly taken a spot from. I will no longer upvote authors for no reason or go on any upvote sprees. Additionally, if anyone wants to downvote me I completely understand.
I hope that going forward the number of points on the website can matter less. A lot of writers on here have been discouraged by the downvoting, but we should all remember that our number of points does not determine the quality of our writing.
I also hope that we can support less popular authors here on Reedsy. I’ve come across many extremely underrated authors here. Let’s make it our goal to stop by a new account and read a story by a new author frequently. We’ll never see just how amazing these stories are unless we take the time to read them.
As Amber Evans said,
"Support each other. Lift each other up. Reedsy isn't a site for upvoting or downvoting. I've been downvoted. Again and again. But I'm not going to give a little rant and say how the downvoter is an awful person. I'm going to help those who have been downvoted by, not upvoting, but commenting. Critiquing. Giving them a like on a good story. Reedsy is an example of real life. There will be upvoters. There will be downvoters. But there will be diversity and stories, and we should focus on that. This is not an Instagram site. Points. Do. Not. Matter."
That’s about all I wanted to say. Thank you to anyone who took the time to read my message. I really appreciate it. I'm open to hearing anyone else's point of view on the issues with points.
Thanks for listening, Reeders,
-Maya
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I'm still fairly new to Reedsy, and is it safe to assume the upvote and downvote effects the algorithm of having your story seen?? (Perhaps that's a naive observation or question) I get hardly any interaction on my stories, unless I comment on someone else's...which I'm happy to do... But I'd love more feedback and engagement
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I think the points do effect how much your story is seen. Especially if you're on the leaderboard since people can easily access your page and see your stories. I think the best way to get feedback on your stories is to read other people's, like you said, and maybe to follow more people so they see your account. I would love to read your stories! I told a lot of people I would read a story of theirs, but I will as soon as I get a chance! :)
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Yes, I read stories as often as I can! Thank you for your reply.
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Anytime!
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Yes, I read stories as often as I can! Thank you for your reply.
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Yes, I read stories as often as I can! Thank you for your reply.
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I agree with this 100%. Upvoting and downvoting has destroyed the community. I now rarely ever see some authors post! Reedsy is such an amazing community, it's sad to see it all go downhill :c
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Yes, it's so sad! The people in charge of this site are the ones that are most able to fix things, they really need to do something about all of this.
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Yes, they should. I think maybe with each story you post, the people at Reedsy could give a small amount of points? (And give feedback along with other writers on the site)
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When a story gets approved you get 10 points, if that what you mean?
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Yea something like that, instead of getting points mainly on upvoting
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I definitely agree!
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Thank you for your comment! I didn't know this problem existed. kristendagmarsdottir
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Maya, This was so necessary. It sucks that people have to post things like this because it shouldn't be a problem at all. Thank you so much for writing this. Its sad to see Megan go. Although I understand why she's leaving. Would you mind reading my story "Even Though"? Thanks, -carolina
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Thank you, Carolina. I appreciate it. Seeing all the people that care about changing things makes me think we might succeed at fixing the point problems sometime.
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Yeah. I might quote you on that
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:D
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I'll read your story as soon as I get the chance! I didn't see that before. :)
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kk, thanks! i added that right before you responded :)
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Oh, okay! :)
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This is so sweet!! I would definitely stop by a lesser known authors stories.
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Thanks, Luke! If you do could you read Zenny Melody's stories. He deserves way more recognition than he gets! Here's the link: https://blog.reedsy.com/creative-writing-prompts/author/zenny-melody-fbb421/
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Of course!! I remember how hard it was to get recognized, but when you have good friends anything's possible. ALSO NEW STORY
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YAY!!! I'LL GO READ IT NOW!
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:D
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Is there even a way to “downvote?” I thought all we had was an option to like and comment. If people can see who downvotes it may serve as a deterrent, because who wants to be seen as a snob or a curmudgeon?
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You can downvote/ upvote by using the arrows beside each comment. Where it says "# points" beside the comment, if the number is above one it has been upvoted, if the number is 0 or below it has been downvoted. Also, upvoting/ downvoting is anonymous so no one ever knows who the downvoters are unless they comment saying it's them.
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Thanks Maya...I see it now...must be my eyesight...or my little phone. :)
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No problem! :)
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Hey, Maya! I'm going to be writing a story using all of my Reedsy friends, and I want you to be in it. If you want to be in it, too, then fill in this: Name (if you want it to be something different): Power: Spirit animal: Eye: Hair: Favorite color: Weakness: If you do this, thanks! If not, that's good, too. :D Your friend, Brooke
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Aww, thanks so much! I'm so excited! Name: Maya Power: Manipulation of gravity Spirit Animal: Lemur Eye: Green Hair: Curly and kind of golden/ brown Favorite Color: Purple and gold Weakness: Family, friends, pets Thanks for including me, friend! :DDD
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I'm not really sure what 'manipulation of gravity' means... I'm probably just dumb, but could you explain? Also, for weakness, I meant that I want to know what just makes you really do anything, even if it's really dumb. lol Other than that, all good! Thanks and the pleasure is all mine, bestie! :D
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I was reading a book one time and the character's power was they could manipulate gravity which was basically a fancy way of saying flying but they could also make other people or things fall or fly. Okay, for weakness then I would say family, friends, pets. Lol :D
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Ohhhhhh gotcha. That'll work! :D Sounds good lol
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Okay, coolio! :DDD
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When you refer to down voting, do you mean just on the comments people make? Or down voting actual stories somehow? I wasn't aware there was a problem with the system until I read your post. Can you expand on what the problem is exactly, cause I'm confused. That being said, when I started on Reedsy I thought the point system was stupid/ arbitrary. It was only in the last week I decided (as you know) to try and up my score, as I hoped it would mean getting more constructive comments on my submissions. As it is now, I hardly ever get comment...
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The downvoting and upvoting are only on comments not actual stories. The problem is when it's done in excessive amounts trying to change a person's point value (not as an agree or disagree on a comment). I think the main reason people started upvoting was to get people back points that they were downvoted then people started upvoting people they thought deserved it. It was done with good intentions but it became unfair to certain authors that weren't recognized. Since Reedsy is a site for writing and receiving critique I think it would be be...
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Yeah, I feel like in some ways it is good - it shows you there is more to being an author and to achievement than just writing stories -- but at the same time I considered writing a note on my own bio. I am so glad people agree and want to make change together. :) I think we create the opposite problem the downvoters create when we do this in excess, so thank you so much for sharing. Thank you Danny, Maya, and everyone else!
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Thanks for caring, Hope! Btw I love your name! :)
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Yeah. I might feel a bit ashamed or something lol. Thank you!! Also, do you know how to find shortlisted stories?
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Don't feel ashamed! I think if you just go to the contests page then click on the contest you want the winning story will be listed then each of the shortlisted ones. Also, each story that was shortlisted has a little grey star circle thingy at the bottom. :)
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Thanks girly! Maybe I just shouldn't be worried about what others think. Thought about our actions is required, and it can be a conflicting thing concerning the upvotes and downvotes, or not a simple decision to upvote or even downvote. It can be hard. We all have the right to free speech, but yes, some people on Reedsy are negative people who are not just giving more critical feedback, but say unnecessary things and are not uplifting. But sometimes I guess our responses can fight fire with fire, and get caught up in stuff. It might be...
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I agree. There is a new group on Reedsy called Oasis that gives feedback on stories and shoutouts to lesser-known authors every week. Anyone is free to join, so if you want to you could ask Radhika Diksha or Kate Reynolds. :)
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I would suggest you read my story" Be mature". And after reading my message please make a decision to support me or not.
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I read the message in your bio. I understand why you wanted upvotes and I don't think you ever did anything wrong. The leaderboard is unfair, and I'm sorry it was unfair to you, too. Did you say you know a downvoter that is on the leaderboard?
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Hey and regarding the Collab for romantic prompts I'm interested. Though I have no idea how a Collab works Also, is it still on?
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Oh cool! It's just basically where two people write a story together, like each telling the story from a different perspective or something. I would like to do that sometime with you! Maybe another week, though, since we don't have much time left and I already kind of have a few stories going on? If that's alright. :)
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I think it takes courage to write this. So hats off! And I agree with the fact that everyone should be treated fairly! I feel each and every story in Reedsy is precious and beautifully written; some of which are underrated too. Thanks for writing this Maya!
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Thank you!
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🦔
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:)
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Hi, Maya! Can you give me the link to the skribbl game for tomorrow at 3:30 PM EST, please? I want to play with you and your brother. :D Your bestie (right?), Brooke
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Sure! I would love for you to play, bestie! ;) I'll ask other people if they want to join in and you can ask people too, if you do just tell me who's playing so I can send them the link, too. :D
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Yay! Alright, I will! :D I'll just put a message in my bio. What's the link?
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I usually make the game right before we start playing, so I can send it to you five or ten minutes before. Until then could you just put a message saying the time of the game? Btw I'm so excited you're playing! :)
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Alright! Yes, I already did. It's at the end of my bio. Which, now that I think about it, is a bad place to put it. LOL I'm gonna go put it at the top. I'm excited, too! :D
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Yay!!! :DDD
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Awwwww you're so right!! Points don't matter! Writing and friendship does! Plus I'm putting you in my story as a spirit so tell me how you look like and personality Jennie. : D
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Ohmigosh thanks so much! I'm medium height, I guess, and I have green eyes. My hair is golden/ brown and curly and longer. I guess my personality is friendly most of the time, pretty adventurous, kinda smart (my Divergent faction is Dauntless and my HP house is Gryfinndor if that helps) I'm not very good at describing myself. XD Thanks again!!! :)
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Yessss its a fantasy with powers so yah I think you'll have shape-shifting powers :D
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Coolio!!! :DDD
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I am seeing conversations about points and upvoting quite often as of late. In general, any sort of message board community is going to have a wide array of people- even a writing forum. I am relatively new to Reedsy Prompts (I think I joined around thanksgiving.) I think you get what you give. If your priority is to get likes or upvotes- you give them. If you want critiques and people to read your writing, you do the same. I'm pretty indifferent to the whole system. The leaderboard isn't really a goal for me. I would love to have a m...
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I agree, you bring up some good points. There actually is a way to see when authors you follow post new stories. You can go to the "Stories" page then the button on the left side at the top that says "Activity Feed". :)
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I def agree Maya!
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Thanks! :)
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Of course!!!
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:D
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Thank you for being an Oasis member. Your support matters.
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Of course! Thank you for starting Oasis and trying to promote change. :)
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Thank you very much.
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:D
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Okay, I lied. One last question...hopefully. What area of magic would you focus on? Fighting Healing Concealing Etc (end of thinking capacity)
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Concealing maybe (if that means making things invisible) :)
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hI louise I know..... so now I am sharing my opinions and ideas on Reedsy
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I mean 😢 😪 😭 yes it has destroyed the Community and also I am going to post sorting about this in my account too
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It has done damage to the community, but I don't think it's destroyed. Hopefully.
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yess
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yess
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Okay, I'll read your messages or opinions. Btw my name is Maya not Louise I just changed it for the fruit names thing. Lol :)
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oooo I'm sorry Maya............lol
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Lol it's fine :)))
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oooo I'm sorry Maya............lol
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oooo I'm sorry Maya............lol
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Omigoshh maya wait, my internet is sooo slow :(
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