With great power comes great responsibility.
It was Marcus Brown’s favorite. He’d never told anyone, of course; being a pastor, your most treasured quote was supposed to be from the Bible, and he told people it was; different verses from Revelation, usually, or if people were starting to catch on he’d switch to John or 1st Peter.
Marcus Brown was a gray-haired white man with a blonde-haired white wife who ran one of the biggest megachurches in the country. Before the notorious coronavirus pandemic, the huge main auditorium seated thousands of churchgoers, their eyes drawn to stagelights shining upon the pulpit where Marcus inevitably stood, a sweaty hand resting on the pages of his highlighted Bible.
2020 had changed all that. Church must be participated in virtually, or not at all. Marcus hated the lockdowns, and after a year of struggling through livestreaming services with his wife from their mansion, he demanded that church reopen to at least half capacity. In 2021, it did so, despite the quite obvious fact that not a single person in that entire congregation had any intention of getting vaccinated.
Including Marcus. And he was seventy-five.
2022. Most citizens in the general population had received the vaccine. The obvious outliers were much of the country’s religious, sharing, on Facebook, their very reliable stories of sterilization and microchips and autism all from, of course, the COVID-19 vaccine.
2022, and by some miracle from God or otherwise, Marcus’ megachurch was back at it in full capacity. Funnily enough, the new livestreams of in-church services were also drawing old viewers from home, and even new viewers from around the globe—Marcus’ numbers were skyrocketing. And he loved it.
2022, and Marcus was becoming richer. He was formulating a plan.
2023, and the plan was finished.
With great power comes great responsibility.
“Ready?” Marcus’ blonde-haired wife straightened his tie and brushed nonexistent dust off the shoulders of his stiff royal blue suit. “You’re gonna do great, sweetie. Good luck!”
Marcus, holding his Bible, peered onto the stage. The last of the worship team’s members was exiting through the other side. Marcus took a deep breath and stepped out.
Immediately, rounds of applause.
Marcus smiled and strolled to the pulpit. He set his Bible down and opened it near the end, then took a quick swig from the fresh Fiji water bottle that was inevitably in the pulpit. He cleared his throat, conscious of the beige-colored microphone wire arching around his right cheek, and began.
“Brothers and sisters.” He spread his hands out wide, greeting the audience. “For many years now I have had the extreme honor and great privilege of serving in the position of Lead Senior Pastor at this fine establishment. I have experienced joys and pains, love and heartbreak, and you all know that when one of you suffers, I bear that hardship myself. I am acquainted with at least several of you personally, and to our online audience”—here Marcus looked directly into the camera on the floor broadcasting his sermon—“know that, although your chosen method of attending church may seem lazy or cowardly to some, that we here in this assembly truly do appreciate your overwhelming awareness of the pandemic still going on right now. Although I know you will all agree, brothers and sisters, when I say the true pandemic is one of fear.”
Hundreds of heads nodded and murmured in agreement.
“So, brothers and sisters, before we begin today’s sermon, I have an announcement for you all. No, I’m not stepping down,” Marcus said hastily, followed by his own awkward, hacking laugh, “but even if I were it would make no difference. You see, church—we are in the end times. Now.”
Thousands of people stirred. Hundreds began to exclaim, directing their talk both at Marcus and at God and the rest at who-knows-who. Marcus cleared his throat in a hope to quiet the congregation. Somehow, it mostly worked.
Marcus began making uninterpretable gestures with his wrinkled, hairy hands. “Brothers and sisters, look around you. What do you see? Everyone has become faceless behind the guard of a mask; people are rioting in the streets, breaking windows of storefronts and trying to evoke chaos on our law enforcements; and even the very world itself is burning down, forests and towns alike going underneath the devil’s fiery flame. What could this not be, other than the very end of our days?”
Marcus took a brief pause to choke down some more Fiji water. He didn’t replace the bottle’s cap before continuing.
“Look in the Good Book, brother and sisters. What do you see? Does it not sound like a description of our very world right now? Love of self is becoming increasingly important, and people are becoming increasingly selfish. You see it as well as I that sexual immorality is becoming normalized.” Maria glanced to the side for a few seconds, a look of fabricated sadness in his eyes. “Everywhere you turn, the world is full of evils. And in fact, brothers and sisters, in fact—”
Marcus took a deep breath and once more faced the audience. “The Lord has come to me in a dream. He has told me when the Rapture is to happen. When the end of the world will commence. And it is this week.”
An explosion of noise louder than anything Marcus’ beige microphone could transmit erupted from all over the church. The balcony, the front row—everywhere people were arguing, babbling, a few were even sobbing and pulling out their phones.
Thankfully, the sound crew took care of everything. From the tech booth came the screeching sound of feedback, and it took only a few seconds for even the most heated to quiet down.
“Brothers and sisters.” Marcus sighed heavily, as if what he was saying pained him deeply. “It will be on Friday. This Friday. This Friday will be the end of the world.”
He paused, expecting people to start shouting at him again, but amazingly, everyone was silent.
“There is much to do, brothers and sisters, to ensure your salvation. Contact your loved ones, of course, and do all you can to bring them to the Lord. But as for all of you--” Marcus once again spread his arms out towards them. “We must prepare.”
Is this actually going to work? I have an enormous influence, yes, and I’m the world’s most well-known pastor since Billy Graham. But will they believe me?
“The things of this world will fall away, brothers and sisters. Money, fortune, fame--none of it will any longer matter. The best thing we can do, right now, is to put our resources towards helping those who need it. So, brothers and sisters, can you see what must be done?”
Again, the congregation stirred.
“You must give up your money. Keep what you need for the following week, of course; but the rest of it you’ll never need or even be able to use.”
Marcus cleared his throat. The huge projector behind him displayed a slide, mostly blue, with a dizzying QR code and a link to his website. “Brothers and sisters, I urge you, donate to the Marcus Brown Foundation. Being a man of the Lord, I know what is his will, and what he would have me do with any money we intake. Your hard-earned dollars will go to the best use that they’re able to, under me care, and we must act in speed now that the end times are upon us.”
Marcus sighed--he seemed to be fond of doing that--and gazed out at his audience. “Brothers and sisters, I implore you to visit my website and contribute all that you can--the end of the world is nipping at our very heels, and we must do everything in our power to--to--” Marcus cleared his throat. “To help those who need it most. Thank you for your time.” Marcus hurriedly closed his Bible and speedwalked behind the stage.
With great power comes great responsibility.
The money came flowing in. From everywhere. From Australia, to Canada, to Thailand, to the States, to places in Africa Marcus was shocked were fully-fledged countries, previously having been under the impression that Africa itself was a country and not an entire continent--more and more money streamed into Marcus’ hands. At first he had been surprised that people were so willing to believe him, but as time went on, Marcus told himself he understood. The world was gullible, and hysterical, and weak, and they needed someone they could trust. Marcus, naturally, was that someone.
By Wednesday, the total amount of money in the Marcus Brown Foundation’s bank account was over four and a half hundred million. And every second, by dozens and by thousands, it grew.
Marcus and his wife stayed up that night, staring at a bright computer screen at 11:59 p.m. Before the clock hit midnight, their numbers reached seven hundred million, eight hundred and twenty-three thousand, five hundred and forty-nine.
Marcus and his wife sighed. He shut off their computer and took a final look around the near-empty halls of their mansion. He smiled.
“Well, my dear, are you ready to go into hiding?”
With great power comes great responsibility.
His wife nodded.
And that’s what they did.
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I thought it was cool that the main character was a villain. You told your story in a way not many others would have thought of.
Also, I thought it was amazing that you used real world topics and you exposed true things about churches. Sure, many churches are good places where people can practice their religion, but there are other churches that are extremely corrupt. They focus on money and not what a church was meant to be, a religious place where you can learn how to be a good person.
I liked this story a lot!
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ahh thank you!! yeah no matter what religion you’re in there are people that will be hypocritical and try to exploit it so always keep your eyes peeled 👁👄👁
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okay, okay, okay. *pause for breath* a few things:
1. bad title. really, really horrible title. help? :S
2. i can understand how this might like offend or confuse some ppl or like cause controversy i guess--i doubt it will, since everyone here is so wonderful--but if you have like anything against this story or me or whatever, that's fine, it's cool, just lmk :D
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Believe it or not... I actually liked this story. :) It's well written, complete with realistic details that really made the piece come to life when I read it. Such as Marcus drinking Fiji water--that one made me smirk. The plot is also entertaining, and drew me in as soon as I started reading. Like any good lie, it has just enough of the truth in it to make it sound plausible, but that one twist of falsehood that makes it fiction. My commendations; you have written a truly believable story.
But now let's get into the real meat of this critique! I'm going to be the first real comment on this story, so I'm gonna make it a good one...
First, to give a little background about myself, I am a young teenage author who's been writing in a real capacity for about six years now. Since a very young age I have loved reading fiction and immersing myself in made-up worlds. Particularly those of the fantasy genre. :P I'm also a devoted Christian with education in Bible scholarship, and apologetics (including the histories and sciences).
In short, I'm your perfect audience for this piece of writing. :D If you remember when I used to be more active on Reedsy, I was well known for honest, detailed critiques. If you don't remember--I leave honest, detailed critiques!!
I'm going to tell you exactly what I think, analyzing to the best of my ability. Please know that whatever I might say is wrong or could be improved, this is still a great work of art! (I can find problems with ANYTHING... including my favorite book series, and, not least of all, my own writing!)
Now, here we go!
First, your plot: this story has an engaging plot, but it really centers around just a few key events. If you zoom in on those events, we will get a much more immersive read, and less "junk" to filter through. Don't get me wrong, it's all good, valuable writing, but you could cut so much of it without affecting the quality of the story. Before you finalize each event, think to yourself: "How does this scene advance my; plot, characters, theme, or world." If it doesn't advance one of those four, it becomes filler writing. For example, giving us a picture of what Marcus does on a regular basis is great, because it allows us to see what he began as (growing into the man he is by the end), but you didn't need to recap 2020. If the readers don't know about all that's gone on during 2020, they're not going to get the point of the story anyways. Otherwise, it's a solid progression that shows rather than tells and gets the point across nicely. Formatting on the advancing years section could use some work, but it's really aesthetics.
Character: your characters are flat and stereotypical. They do not grow or change. We read them for the attributes they possess, and not for the attributes they don't.
Let's dive deeper...
Pastor Marcus comes across as a pretty dirty guy. He's a dirty guy in the beginning, and he's a dirty guy at the end. He's static. His character works in the same way that a character like James Bond or Jack Sparrow does. Basically, we're reading because we like to see the attributes he possesses on display. Just like Bond's classic use of gadgets and martial arts, and Sparrow's swashbuckling swagger. These characters do not grow or learn or change. We love them for who they are, not for who they could be, and you use stereotypes to give us a clear idea of Marcus right off the bat.
As for what I think could be improved with your characters, I think Marcus could use a real character arc. It would completely change the feel and structure of your story, but it would give us someone real to either get behind, or fight against. Basically, you want the readers to identify with your characters through the struggles they face, and Marcus does not face any struggles. A really easy way to do this would be to give Marcus a conscience, having him struggle between all of the money he knows he could grasp, and what the Bible says about his activity. Both Proverbs and the books of the New Testament have plenty of verses on money handling, fraud, and tricksters (1 Timothy 6:10, Hebrews 13:5, Matthew 6:19-21, Proverbs 13:11, Luke 12:15), complemented by the innumerable teachings against false prophets found throughout the entirety of Scripture. (Lamentations 2:14, Matthew 24:24, Matthew 7:15, Ezekiel 22:28)
In short, there are plenty of reasons for Marcus to have doubt and fear about what he aims to do. The Lord even calls down a special curse against false prophets and those to whom they prophesy. (Jeremiah 14:14-16)
Theme: this story has no clear theme, as there is no character development to display theme, and no clear plotting that pushes a particular thematic element. the overall feeling is of trickery, and falsehood, and I feel you make a mockery of the typical American megachurch. (I will discuss the content soon)
World (or, more accurately, device): simply, our world. You extrapolate events several years into the future, leaving out some aspects that might affect the outcomes. However, I did not feel any large and obvious logic gaps. Fictional worlds are designed to be different from the real world, but they still must FEEL real in order to succeed, and I think this one fits the ticket.
Let's get into the content. You comment down below that you think the content may offend, confuse, or cause controversy. I think the content of the story, sadly, is very accurate. If it causes controversy, in anyone's mind, I invite them to read the Bible, and then listen to a sermon from any sort of megachurch. The results are shocking.
To get into detail, very few churches nowadays actually teach what the Bible says. Our culture is one of moral relativity, and one of laxity. What laxity means is that no one wants to be responsible (hence our situation with divorce, marriage, and dating). Dating is a great example. Except for the more recent parts of history, your spouse was largely chosen by your parents. Your parents and the spouse's parents would come together and discuss the implications of the marriage, how the two people involved would mix, and, in high class families, the business tactics of such an arrangement. And then, once you were married, that was it; no going back. (Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:4-6. 1 Corinthians 7 and Ephesians 5 talk more about it.)
We have replaced that with something called "boyfriend and girlfriend". In that "in between" situation, couples enjoy all the rights of marriage (living together, sex) with no real commitment. But the Bible is clear that this is wrong, as Hebrews 13:4 says; "Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge."
Does the church ever teach about this? Does the church condemn these relationships? The answer is that very few churches have the guts to actually teach the Word of God.
Now we're onto moral relativity. This is the big one...
The Bible teaches clear, absolute truth, because God is clear and absolute as well. God cannot lie, and he exists at all points of time and space at once. This means truth that cannot change. Most Christians do not profess to believe in the existence of absolute truth, because they do not want to. Having absolute truth means absolute morality, and absolute morality means standing up against a world which places enormous pressure on any who would dare not to conform.
Instead, most churches teach moral relativity. This teaching can be summed up in a single, simple statement; "Your truth is your truth, and my truth is mine. Everyone decides their own truth."
One of these absolute truths is that God is just (Psalm 37:28, Isaiah 61:8). Because of his justice, he cannot tolerate sin. When Eve sinned, and Adam soon after, they brought death upon themselves. Because God is just, he could not allow sin to persist forever in eternal life. This is why we need Jesus. His blood is a covering over our sins, allowing God to see a perfect sacrifice instead of broken sinners.
God's justice is perverted on a regular basis by the church in such things as homosexuality, and the perverted teaching of evolution. A great example is homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22, Colossians 3:5, Matthew 15:19, Thessalonians 4:3, Corinthians 6:18, Leviticus 20:13). The Bible is extremely clear that homosexuality is a grave sin (instantly punished by death under Old Testament Law, as stated in Leviticus 20:13), yet in their weakness churches place homosexuality as right and good--or even exalted! Take also the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, found in Genesis 19.
To be very clear, that does not mean that we should hate those who profess to be homosexual. Homosexuality is a sin like any other, and as such is covered by the blood of Christ. Just as I sin, every day, and obtain forgiveness, so any sinner may have forgiveness. God hates sin, not the people who sin. If God hated the people, then the blood of Christ would not cover us, because Christ was a sacrifice to cover our sin, and not a supposed hatred of our actual selves. Instead, God loves people--He did create us, after all. However, since He is holy and just, he cannot tolerate the presence of sin, but requires a sacrifice.
Whew! I feel like I'm rambling a bit...
All that to say, churches don't actually teach the full Word of God, and as such very, very few people have actually read what they profess to believe. This creates a culture where people will readily accept whatever they hear from the fallible people they perceive as trustworthy, instead of believing the Word of the omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, perfect being who created the entire universe. Sounds silly, right? That's because it is.
As such, I have no trouble believing that such a massive group of people would believe such a blatant lie. The Bible makes it quite clear that no one but God will be able to predict the arrival of the end times, but these people wouldn't know that. In fact, these tactics are exactly the same as many "preachers" use. These are the same preachers that claim to be "faith healers", and often head megachurches (Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, etc...). To anyone who has read the Bible, this sort of money farming is clearly sinful.
There's actually a documentary about this phenomenon, called "The American Gospel". I watched it a little while back, probably on Netflix. I would highly recommend it.
And now we come to the end of this very long review/critique! Overall, I liked it! Some things to work on with plotting/pacing/character, but not enough to diminish the quality of the writing. Just ways to make your future pieces better. :)
Peace out. ;)
Keep on writing!
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ahh okay first off, THANK YOU for taking the time to read my story and leave this comment haha :D i pretty much agree with everything you said except:
"Except for the more recent parts of history, your spouse was largely chosen by your parents. Your parents and the spouse's parents would come together and discuss the implications of the marriage, how the two people involved would mix, and, in high class families, the business tactics of such an arrangement. And then, once you were married, that was it; no going back. We have replaced that with something called "boyfriend and girlfriend". In that "in between" situation, couples enjoy all the rights of marriage (living together, sex) with no real commitment."
ok, i agree that a lot of unmarried ppl are living as the bible said only those wed should and.. basically yeah i do understand that the lines between marriage and dating and stuff have become blurred. but this kind of makes it seem like you believe in arranged marriages? or you think the only way to have a successful marriage is if it's set up for you? you didn;t say this directly, to me it just feels implied. and i don't believe that at all. so i was just wondering :)
the second thing is you pointed out, as so many christians do, the example of homosexuality. again, i recognize that the bible condemns that, but a lot of christians seem to pinpoint on it, whereas--there are verses in the bible, in the new testament, that say a women isn't allowed to so much as open her mouth in church? does that still hold? and if it doesn't, why not? the bible says it. if women are now allowed to speak in church, how come homosexuality isn't tolerable? or, like, i can't list the number of teens i know with homophobic parents who say they're christian but have gotten divorced and remarried. that's literally a sexual sin, so why do people never pinpoint that?
yeahhh that's just basically my questions but idk, none if it may make any sense and u don't have to feel obligated to respond, i could be wrong about any and all of this, i'm just a smol bean :P
anyways, thank u!!
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So, I'll answer your questions one by one.
First, do I believe in arranged marriage. This one is simple; arranged marriage is neither right nor wrong. I believe that for most people, God has a partner already arranged for you--someone set up specifically to be your perfect match. Now, this doesn't mean that you'll key into that, or that they will, but the Bible clearly tells us that God has a plan for our lives, and that it is a good one. In this way, God has an arranged marriage ready for all of us, synonymous with the arranged marriage between Christ and his bride, the church. Now, the Bible never says specifically that you have to marry whom God chooses, or it is sin, but what it does tell us is that when we seek the Lord, he will make our paths clear to us. When we choose not to follow these paths, we do commit sin. To cover all the loose ends, we are also commanded to seek the Lord.
In conclusion for this question, arranged marriage is neither right nor wrong, and I do not believe the only way to have a successful marriage is for it to be arranged. The concept of an arranged marriage as it should be is to allow people with more wisdom and insight to help you find your partner. Young adults are inherently stupid, their minds clouded by rampant hormones and infectious propaganda from The World about what relationships should look like. I know this is true from firsthand experience, being a young adult myself. Paul dissects the topic of marriage further in Corinthians 7, which I encourage you to read.
Moving on to the next question. You use the term pinpoint, and then misdirect to another topic (which I will answer in due course as well). This is called a straw man argument. The way it works is by taking your opponent's argument, and then setting up a mockery of it. you then proceed to destroy the "straw man" and use that to try and discredit your opponent's actual argument. In this case, you draw attention to the issue of homosexuality, then redirect to Paul's teaching on conduct within church. Regardless of whether or not you can demolish the "straw man", the actual argument still stands firm and untouched.
Now, to answer the redirect. Firstly, you misquote. To quote you; "there are verses in the bible, in the new testament, that say a women isn't allowed to so much as open her mouth in church?" The Bible does not actually say "that a woman may not so much as open her mouth". Here is the exact quote, from the NKJV translation--which is arguably the best translation (from Hebrew) when original meaning is called into question, "Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the Law also says." 1 Corinthians 14:35.
Let's look into this. First, the surrounding context must ALWAYS be taken into account. Verses without context are merely potent figures of speech, shrouded in misdirection, and easily twisted. For an example of this, read in Matthew 4 about when Satan used twisted Scripture to tempt Jesus. Here is the subheading of the chapter in which the verse in question is found; "Order in Church Meetings" From this, we can clearly ascertain the general meaning of the passage as a whole; to keep order in the church! Paul goes on to direct the Corinthians as to how many people should exercise each spiritual gift at once, presumably to keep order in the church. If twenty people all prophesy at once, how will the people listen to even one of the prophets?
Next, let us examine the cultural context, which Paul makes reference to in the verse (the Law). The Jewish culture was rooted deep within the mosaic law. Some of the statutes of the mosaic law, Jesus personally fulfilled, rendering them useless. A good example would be animal sacrifice. Jesus became our sacrifice, so we no longer need animals to die in our stead. However, Jesus never 'fulfilled' this particular doctrine. Instead, he reinforced it. Here's how: the Bible teaches that men and women are very different. We are created with different bodies, different mindsets, and different capabilities. Modern culture tries to tell us that women and men are the same, and can carry out the same roles, but this just isn't true. For example, men are built to fight. It's just a fact; men are better at fighting. We are built with more muscle mass, thicker bones, and less flexibility of certain joints. Men can run faster, hit harder, and do it for longer than women can. I'm not saying that every man is physically stronger than every woman, but the rule holds true by a massive margin on a percentage comparison basis.
Now, let's translate that to our God-given roles. The Bible teaches that the man is the head of the household. Strong male leadership is a huge part of a successful relationship, because it is how God designed us. Look back to Genesis 2, and the creation of Adam and Eve. Adam was created first, and God brought him all the beasts of the field. He named them all, but among them a helper comparable to him could not be found (Gen 2:20). Thus, God created Eve as a helper for Adam. In the same vein, though Eve sinned first, God spoke first to Adam, because Adam bore responsibility for his wife (Gen 3:9-11). The leader takes responsibility for those under his care, just as Christ takes responsibility for the sins of his bride, the Church. (do you see the parallelism?)
So, all that to say, man and woman are created with very different roles to perform. Each is equally important, because we are all created in God's image, and we all share equally in the inheritance of salvation. Modern culture likes to distort and twist these roles in many different ways, but the Bible remains true and relevant.
Taking this directly to the verse, men and women have different roles within the church as well as the family and society. As for why society at large has accepted such ideas as female church leaders, I believe pressure from the outside world, and personal sin is responsible. I do not believe that women shouldn't be allowed to speak in church, as that no longer causes disorder (as it may very well have in the Corinthian church), but I think the Bible is extremely clear that women should not hold authority over men. God's design is not for women to be the leaders, just as it's not His design for women to go to battle. (why do you think God only sent the men out to fight in the many wars he commanded during the reigns of such kings as Saul and David?)
In fact, the absence of male leadership in a family is clearly seen through such things as divorce, and the numerous problems children develop when they lack one of their parents. God created us to have both. When you take half away, you only get half of what God intended you to have. (of course there are such things as foster parents, and family/friend figures who step into certain roles, but I'm speaking generally)
To sum it up before I move onto the next topic, God created men to lead, and women to help, and when those roles are broken, we break God's design for men and women as complementary partners in life.
Check out this link for more info (they're more eloquent than I am :P): https://assets.answersingenesis.org/doc/articles/am/v11/n2/reissig-chapter-excerpt.pdf
Next question! This last one is very, very simple. If you divorce someone, you're actually still married to them, as far as God is concerned. Matthew 19:6 teaches that man should not separate what God has brought together, as well as many other facts about marriage about divorce in the parent chapter. I encourage you to read this for yourself. But yeah, if a couple divorces, and then "remarries", they technically never got divorced. Once you get married, you become one flesh with that person, brought together by God. How does a silly piece of paper undo that??? The simple answer is that it doesn't.
Also, I would like to add that the thing about divorce is technically another straw man argument, as I never shared any opinions on it.
Now, to close off, I sense the statement you're implying as; "Not all of the Bible is true, because lots of people who claim to be Christians don't follow it." This is another fallacious argument. Facts are facts whether people believe them or not. Absolute truth is absolute truth whether people believe it or not. The ocean is made of water whether people believe it or not. The earth is round whether people believe it or not. The Bible is true whether people believe it or not (or follow what it actually says). Gay marriage is wrong whether people believe it or not. The pattern is easy to see.
Remember to always test what anyone might tell you against the measuring rod of Scripture. The Word of God is always truth, and you can use it to determine what among the many things the world tells you are facts and lies. I think you'll find most to be lies. If a Christian tells you something that doesn't sound right, ask them to back it up with a Bible verse (IN CONTEXT). This will allow you to actually determine real truth when the world is hell bent on force-feeding you lies. For example, my entire family reads through the whole Bible on a yearly basis. We've done it as a family for four years now. We don't skip a single section, no matter how uncomfortable conversations with small children can get. Why? Because it's all true, and it's all incredibly important. We are equipped to defend ourselves when people question our faith, because we have the answers.
Don't stop asking questions, and keep on writing. :)
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ok, so i disagree with some of the stuff you said, but since i don't have the mental energy to type out a viable response, and since i've seen how quickly online conversations can spiral into debates (and hoo boy, i've had several of those that, looking back on, i'm very not-proud of), and since i usually type in all-lowercase, anyways, and that's not very professional, i think i'm just going to end it here by saying, i'm not really going to respond, but i respect your opinion, and thank you for your comment :)
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Hello! I see you wrote a lot and I respect that you took the time to write your opinons and explain them. But, I have a question about one of the things you said. No, I am not trying to start an argument, I am only asking because you said “don’t stop asking questions” and I want to be educated about the arguments people have, even when they disagree with me. You can never solve a conflict if you don’t know both sides of the story, and I want to know how others think so I can better understand them. I never want to start an argument, so you totally don’t have to respond.
My question is this: Why do you think Gay Marriage is a sin?
I do not live a life where the bible is always the truth. It’s fine if you do, I will 100% respect it in every way, but that’s just not who I am. When I think of religion, I automatically associate it with some trauma I have endured (which is a whole other can or worms). So, I do not fully understand your argument by saying it is a sin. Would you mind explaining it to me? You may do that however you wish, I just want to hear where you are coming from :)
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okay, since i’m not adept at technology i’m not sure whether you were asking me or leo, but the short answer is:
there are verses in the bible that condone homosexuality.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146107915577097?journalCode=btba
(i literally just googled that lmao but i knew there were beforehand)
i’m not saying what i think about the matter—it’s actually kind of confusing to me and i just kind of think everyone can live their life—but i do believe that gay marriage shouldn’t be illegal and also that lgbt+ people deserve whatever rights as anyone else :) i hope that answers your question!!
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(This is aimed mostly toward Leo, and a little bit toward Inkstained Introvert. Sorry if it is a bit confusing as to who I’m referring to)
Hey, I’m just joining the conversation because I have a few things to say. First of all, you are obligated to your own opinions and beliefs. I am also not trying to start arguments or anything, just putting a few of my thoughts in. Keep in mind, I am also not an expert on any of these topics and I might be wrong about several of the topics I’m writing about. (I also respect that you took the time to write all of this out, Leo)
Anyway, I totally agree with you, Inkstained Introvert. Gay marriage should be made legal and LGBTQ+ people deserve the same rights as anyone else! I also believe some of the Bible verses are a bit misleading when talking about homosexuality. I won’t go into detail right now, but if you look them up, you’ll see there are several bible verses that can have more than one meaning to them.
I also disagree with the statement that women should not hold authority over men. Yes, men are built larger than women, but that doesn’t change the fact that women can still fight in wars, play sports, ect. I believe women and men should be treated equally, and women should have the opportunity to become leaders. In fact, there are a few countries around the world today that have female leaders. In short, yes, there are several differences between women and men, but that does not mean women should be treated less than men. Gender does not decide whether you are fit to be a leader or not. Some men are submissive, while some women are naturally leaders. I think gender norms like these are very confining, and therefore, I do not believe they are true, nor are they healthy to inflict on people. (If you happen to be a “manly” man or a “girly” girl, there is no problem with that. But people who are not that way should not be forced into it)
I’m sorry if I came off a little strongly, I’m a very opinionated person when it comes to these topics. And feel free to correct me on anything I’ve said. Again, just trying to hear out other opinions, learn your reasoning, and add my own opinions. I hope you don’t take any of my opinions too harshly.
Anywho, thank you for reading this! And great story! (I will most likely add a separate comment about the story itself)
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hey,
i totally, totally agree with everything you said in the fourth paragraph. whether or not a person has a penis or a vagina doesn't have any affect on their confidence, determination, or even strength--there are plenty of women who are stronger than men in multiple ways. in my experience, some christians are often the ones enforcing gender stereotypes like that women must always be quiet and never have power and that it's weak for a man to cry or display emotion (which, by the way, is sexism against MEN. feminists are fighting to end all gender inequalities, by the way :) nowadays, in many (though not all) parts of the world, females receive nearly equal education in every way to males--they can read, now, for one--which makes you wonder if maybe times now are just sliiightly different from what they were thousands of years ago?
i'm not a very articulate person, but basically, it's just my belief that what you have between your legs and/or how society perceives you shouldn't be the sole factor of beating you into submission or determining your station in life :)
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Yes! I totally agree with you! :)
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HOLY FRICK THAT IS NEARLY 2K WORDS WHEN YOU SAY “I leave honest, detailed critiques!!” YOU FREAKING MEAN IT
But I do disagree with half of what you said but I’ve already ranted about homophobic-essy and Christianity way too much in the past day so I honestly don’t have the energy to respond dddddddd
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Lol
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