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Officer Schultz: Interview #3

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OS: Ok, take a seat.

OS: So, uh… would you please tell me who you are?

HU: What I remember, you would not understand.

OS: As in… you’re from another planet or dimension?

HU: A different species.

OS: Different species? You look as human as I do.

HU: Humanoid, as you might call it.

OS: Yes. So you are humanoid, but not human. Correct?

HU: I wouldn’t identify myself as humanoid, but you seem to identify me as such.

OS: So you are an alien?

HU: I am from this planet, so, by definition, I am not an alien.

OS: What should I call you?

HU: I have no identification other than what you have told me: Humanoid.

OS: But you don’t identify yourself as humanoid.

HU: Correct.

OS: What if I just called you Hugh? Would that work for you?

HU: Hugh works well enough for me.

OS: Ok, now we’re getting somewhere. *pause* So, Hugh… um… Is there any more information that you would be willing to tell me to help identify you more?

HU: I know no other knowledge about myself.

OS: Well, what do you know then? Any information that you have that you can tell me?

HU: All I know is that I wish to seek to understand why you are here.

OS: Why I am here interviewing you?

HU: No. What is the meaning of humans being on Earth?

OS: *chuckles*, Well, that, my friend, is the million dollar question, isn’t it?

HU: Yes. But you human beings seem to approach it in a very odd way that I do not understand.

OS: What do you not understand?

HU: You seem brash and boastful, yet do not have the intelligence to merit such brass and boastfulness.

OS: You determined us brash and boastful?

HU: Not all, but most. Yet most carry themselves in a sort of... *hesitates*… sloppy way.

OS: Sloppy?

HU: Like a child. Like they never grew up.

OS: Interesting. What makes you say that?

HU: I have seen other people giving glances at me and even saying remarks that resemble very much a lack of acknowledgement of what is true.

OS: What did they say?

HU: I believe it was something along the line of “hey cutie” or “lil’ sweet sumthin’” while walking by.

OS: Oh. I am sorry about that. They shouldn’t say such remarks. I apologize on behalf of them.

HU: No need to apologize for them, but I do agree that they should not have said such things.

OS: Yes, it was inappropriate.

HU: Mmm… I would say unneeded.

OS: Unneeded?

HU: There was no need to make comments like that.

OS: I… I can agree with that.

HU: But the fact that it was multiple ones that made unneeded comments like that indicates to me that human beings are used to saying such unneeded things, almost care free. As if there is no understanding of the effects their words have on others.

OS: Did you find it upsetting, what they said to you?

HU: If I had any feelings, I might’ve been. But it more confused me. I am not sure what goes in people’s heads that drives them to say things that are unneeded.

OS: Well, I’m not sure which people they were, but I’m sure I’ll have a talkin’ with them.

HU: What would you say to them?

OS: That it is not appropriate to say those kind of things to someone you don’t know.

HU: That is the second time you have used the word “inappropriate” in relation to this story. What makes you think it is inappropriate?

OS: Well, as you said, someone else might’ve found it offensive, and therefore, they shouldn’t be saying those things.

HU: Do you not think they already know this information?

OS: They may, but it’ll be a nice reminder to them.

HU: Why remind them of things they already know?

OS: Well, people have a tendency to forget things they already know. Like, I already forgot what I had for breakfast this morning *chuckles*, but I’m sure if my wife told me, I’d remember.

HU: Interesting how fickle the human mind is when it comes to memory. Like it only wants to remember certain things and not all things.

OS: Oh it would be impossible for us to know all things. That would be like God.

HU: Do you believe I am God?

OS: *laughs* Oh no! I know you are not God, but I don’t believe you remember all things either. You don’t even remember anything beyond when I met you.

HU: That is your conclusion? That I do not remember anything?

OS: Your words, not mine.

HU: I remember my words very clearly: I said ‘What I remember, you would not understand’, and then later ‘I have no knowledge about myself, other than to seek why human beings are here’.

OS: So you were made to have a certain goal or objective? And no other information or knowledge is relevant?

HU: I am not sure why I was made or what I am here, but yes, I do acknowledge that I have a certain goal or objective. All knowledge or information I gain is relevant. No knowledge or information is outside of that goal or objective.

OS: Did you gain any knowledge that is not relevant, therefore, did not retain?

HU: All knowledge is relevant.

OS: In general or to your objective?

HU: Both.

OS: All knowledge you have is relevant to your objective?

HU: Yes. Why wouldn’t it be?

OS: I would think that there is some information that you have obtained that wouldn’t be relevant. Such as… if monkeys are able to type up Shakespeare if given enough time. I don’t think that would be relevant to anything.

HU: Why would you think that wouldn’t be relevant?

OS: Well, for one, why does it matter if monkeys type up Shakespeare? And two, would it really take away the greatness that Shakespeare wrote? It’s almost like people are trying to disprove Shakespeare by asserting that ‘even a monkey can write Shakespeare’. Well, if that was the case, why hasn’t anyone else done it yet?

HU: Hm. I see. So you think if this knowledge comes out that monkeys were able to write Shakespeare, and that because the perceived intelligence of monkeys is much lower than the perceived intelligence of human beings, one particular being called ‘Shakespeare’, that it would discredit the ability and achievement of this Shakespeare, thus the abilities and achievements of human beings?

OS: You could put it that way, yes.

HU: I can clarify a few things if you would like.

OS: By my guest.

HU: One: Human beings have the unique ability of telling stories. This is the element that piques my interest the most, because this is where I believe human beings have clearly separated themselves from all other species in the stories we tell. No other species here on Earth tells the intricate and complex stories that humans do.

OS: What would be the second?

HU: The illogical assumptions that are made by human beings. There is no reason, other than personal bias that I do not understand, that because one inferior intelligent is able to make the accomplishments of a superior intelligent being that it must diminish the accomplishments of the superior being. It is clear to me that any human being can make any kind of accomplishment, regardless of their perceived intellectual level, and even make an accomplishment that no one can replicate, such as the person you refer to as ‘Shakespeare’. I do not know about this ‘Shakespeare’, but it seems like their accomplishments had an impact on you enough for you to have some sort of emotional reaction when their works are questioned. It’s almost as if there are some select human beings who disregard the accomplishments of everyone but their own.

OS: Yes, and that is what we call human pride.

HU: Hm. Human pride. An aspect of human beings that is foreign to me.

OS: What do you not understand about it?

HU: It is very illogical. It will denounce truth that is clearly true, but instead, make up false assumptions and stories and act like they are true.

OS: Well, some stories we know are false, but there’s still a meaning behind them.

HU: Meaning behind falsehood?

OS: Yes. We know that the story of Jack and the Beanstalk did not occur in reality, but it is still a story told throughout the generations.

HU: Why perpetuate the story if we know it is false?

OS: Because stories are entertainment for us. And help provide meaning in our lives, even if they’re not true.

HU: I do not understand this concept. How can meaning come from something that is false?

OS: Well, see, our minds like to have imagination, and imagination helps us to escape from the reality of this world and focus on something else that gives us joy. This is why books and movies tend to be so popular. We know they’re false, but we convince ourselves that they’re true while we’re in the middle of it so we can feel what it’s like if it was true.

HU: Hm. So you’re lying to yourself about something that is false in order to make it true to you for you to feel something from it.

OS: I suppose that’s the case, when you put it that way.

HU: I can see why human beings are confused.

OS: Confused?

HU: As to what is true and what isn’t true.

OS: No no, we know that books and movies are false, which is why we call it fiction. We just believe it to be true, or else we may not understand the message behind the story.

HU: What message would that be?

OS: Well, it depends on the story. Some stories are meant to be more comedic and entertaining. Some are meant to tell a story more dramatic and real, and others are just meant to take us to another world or place that we would not be able to experience otherwise.

HU: But if human beings already have this sense of imagination, wouldn’t they be able to create this imagination for themselves?

OS: Not everyone has this ability or gift of imagination, so they have to rely on other people’s vivid imagination.

HU: But everyone can create their own story, correct?

OS: As far as I’m aware, but not all stories get told to everyone.

HU: Why not?

OS: *chuckles* Well, there’s just not enough ears to hear all those stories. Plus, there are several stories that, I believe, probably will never see the light of day, and not by anyone’s fault for that matter.

HU: Why would that be the case?

OS: Oh I don’t know… could be a combination of exposure, willingness to share, or wanting to keep the story anonymous. Many people might be afraid to share their story in fear of negative feedback.

HU: Fear?

OS: Many people are attached to their story, so they take it personal if their story is told and no one likes it or is ignored.

HU: But aren’t stories, as you said, ‘fictional’?

OS: Some are, but some are based on real-life events.

HU: And they find it insulting if someone else, who did not live their life, judges their story that is based on real life?

OS: Yes. I don’t know why, but I would imagine because it either isn’t entertaining enough, or realistic enough.

HU: Why should a persons’ life be judged on subjective entertainment value or arbitrary realism determination? Does this go back to the ‘human pride’ you were talking about earlier?

OS: It might. It’s also much easier to criticize someone else’s life or story when you don’t like your own life, or feel like you don’t have your own story.

HU: So human pride is what shuts down other people’s stories?

OS: You could say that.

HU: And it was human pride that caused those other people to say those, as you said, ‘inappropriate’ things to me?

OS: Yes.

HU: Seems to be that human pride has become a major problem that has remained unfixed.

OS: Oh, yes, I believe that is the case.

HU: Why has it gone unaddressed?

OS: I’m sorry?

HU: Seems like no one is addressing this major issue and flaw that most human beings have, and it is slowly diluting human intelligence.

OS: What do you mean?

HU: If a human being already assumes they know something based on human pride, what motivation do they have to prove themselves wrong? If pride is the reason for them to believe they are right, pride will also prevent any motivation from them to prove themselves wrong, especially when they already have the habit of convincing themselves something true when they know it’s not true through stories.

OS: That… about sums it up. Yes.

HU: I understand now.

OS: You understand what?

HU: I am practicing human pride.

OS: So you don’t understand.

HU: Exactly. I am pretending that I do, which is a strange concept still. I would imagine it would take several attempts of this for me to get use to.

OS: Yeah… that is what most of us would call ‘conscience’. The ability to know right and wrong.

HU: This ‘conscience’… this is something all human beings have?

OS: I believe so.

HU: And this still doesn’t stop them from having human pride?

OS: They are often at conflicts with each other, yes.

HU: Why should there be any conflict?

OS: What do you mean by that?

HU: It makes sense that this ‘conscience’ is more productive in knowing and telling the truth, instead of human pride trying to convince the person that they know what is true what it isn’t true. I am very confused as to why there would be any conflict between the two.

OS: Well, one thing about human pride is that it often gets us what we want. That’s the intrigue of it.

HU: Even if what human beings want is false?

OS: Yes.

HU: What a confusing species.

OS: Yes indeed.

*silence for a few seconds*

OS: Um, *clears throat*, is there… anything else that you would like to talk about or discuss?

HU: Not at this moment. This was a productive conversation.

OS: Yes indeed it was.

HU: How about we do this again. Same time tomorrow?

OS: My schedule is clear. *laughs*.

HU: I will see you then.

The being called “Hugh” stands at the table. Officer Schultz goes up to Hugh and takes their hand and moves it up and down a couple of times. Officer Schultz lets go of his hand and proceeds to walk out of the room. Hugh turns to watch Officer Schultz leave the room. Hugh stands there for a few seconds until the next intergalactic being walks in the door. Hugh greets him with two opposing fingers pointing up as the being does the same.

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